FB Mileage runs (segmenten dan vooral)

ok mijn excuses
bedankt voor uw overzicht

dus zodra een vlucht geen punten krijgt staat dit gelijk aan geen QF

 

Jup

 

Ik heb begin dit jaar vier maal met een UX A330 gevlogen, dan wel op een medium-haul flight (MAD-LPA). Een minpunt, helemaal op long-haul flights, is dat Air Europa geen meal service heeft. Al het eten en drinken is betaalt.

In economy is er een 2-4-2 opstelling. Recline van de stoelen is gemiddeld, wel prima om in te zitten. Beenruimte was voor mij (1,85m) net genoeg.
Qua cabin crew kan ik niet zo veel melden, aangezien ik deze alleen heb gezien/horen praten tijdens het aanbieden van het eten/drinken. Voor de rest niet extreem aanwezig in de cabine.

Bijgevoegd een foto van de-planing op LPA.

 

Ik heb deze fares gevonden op ITA. Maar waar kan ik ze boeken? Sites van AF, KL en AZ werken niet, social media team van KL snapt het niet, SkyScanner geeft ook geen goed advies... help!



Amsterdam (AMS) to Naples (NAP) — Sat, Nov 7


Amsterdam (AMS) to Milan (LIN) — Sat, Nov 7
Alitalia 121
Dep: 12:15 pm
Arr: 1:50 pm
1h 35m
Airbus A320
Economy (O)

Layover in LIN
5h 25m
This flight contains airport changes

Milan (MXP) to Rome (FCO) — Sat, Nov 7
Alitalia 1023
Dep: 7:15 pm
Arr: 8:30 pm
1h 15m
Embraer RJ-175
Economy (O)

OPERATED BY ALITALIA CITYLINER S.P.A.
Layover in FCO
1h 0m

Rome (FCO) to Naples (NAP) — Sat, Nov 7
Alitalia 1267
Dep: 9:30 pm
Arr: 10:20 pm
0h 50m
Airbus A320
Economy (O)

Naples (NAP) to Amsterdam (AMS) — Sun, Nov 8


Naples (NAP) to Rome (FCO) — Sun, Nov 8
Alitalia 1268
Dep: 7:20 am
Arr: 8:05 am
0h 45m
Airbus A320
Economy (O)

Layover in FCO
4h 55m

Rome (FCO) to Milan (LIN) — Sun, Nov 8
Alitalia 2038
Dep: 1:00 pm
Arr: 2:10 pm
1h 10m
Embraer RJ-175
Economy (O)

OPERATED BY ALITALIA CITYLINER S.P.A.
Layover in LIN
3h 10m

Milan (LIN) to Amsterdam (AMS) — Sun, Nov 8
Alitalia 112
Dep: 5:20 pm
Arr: 7:15 pm
1h 55m
Airbus A319
Economy (O)

 

Sorry, kan je geen antwoord geven op je vraag, maar was wel even benieuwd:

Mag ik vragen wat de kosten zijn mbt deze run?

 

204,-

 

Sorry heb het al gevonden, 203 euro.

 

Haha je was me voor, thanks anyway! Kan je Alitalia niet bellen en boeken?

 

Ik heb even voor je zitten kijken en ik kan hem via priceline voor 232USD boeken. (https://www.priceline.com/fly/#/che...108/1/AZ121-AZ1023-AZ1267:AZ1268-AZ1024-AZ112) geen idee of de link werkt trouwens

Ik raad je wel af om deze segment run te doen omdat O bij flyingblue 0% miles geeft en dus ook geen QF.

 

Ik had beetje gehoopt dat TS dit al uitgezocht had. Vond het inderdaad een mooie run. Maar als het geen miles en geen QF geeft is het geen reden tot boeken. Meeste binnen Italie met Alitalia geven geen miles of QF's. Was al verwonderd.

 

Klopt. Binnenlandse vluchten in Italie nooit op AZ nummers boeken

 

Was bijna de trigger om toch dit jaar voor Gold te gaan. Nachtleven van Napels even checken en 6 segmenten. Dan toch maar volgend jaar naar Gold en het nu maar even bij Silver laten.

 

Bedankt allemaal en sorry dat ik heb zitten slapen. Ik moest inderdaad een andere fare-klasse hebben. Ik zie een vergelijkbare trip in klasse X voor 284. Ook geen idee hoe ik deze kan boeken. Priceline geprobeerd maar mij lukt het niet... dit wordt dan het schema:

Amsterdam (AMS) to Naples (NAP) — Sat, Nov 7

Amsterdam (AMS) to Turin (TRN) — Sat, Nov 7

Alitalia 7737 Dep: 9:25 am Arr: 11:10 am 1h 45m Embraer RJ-190 Economy (X)

OPERATED BY KLM Layover in TRN 1h 5m

Turin (TRN) to Rome (FCO) — Sat, Nov 7

Alitalia 1418 Dep: 12:15 pm Arr: 1:30 pm 1h 15m Airbus A319 Economy (X)

Layover in FCO 1h 40m

Rome (FCO) to Naples (NAP) — Sat, Nov 7

Alitalia 1269 Dep: 3:10 pm Arr: 4:05 pm 0h 55m Airbus A319 Economy (X)




Naples (NAP) to Amsterdam (AMS) — Sun, Nov 8

Naples (NAP) to Rome (FCO) — Sun, Nov 8

Alitalia 1268 Dep: 7:20 am Arr: 8:05 am 0h 45m Airbus A320 Economy (X)

Layover in FCO 2h 5m

Rome (FCO) to Venice (VCE) — Sun, Nov 8

Alitalia 1463 Dep: 10:10 am Arr: 11:20 am 1h 10m Airbus A320 Economy (X)

Layover in VCE 1h 5m

Venice (VCE) to Amsterdam (AMS) — Sun, Nov 8

Alitalia 7734 Dep: 12:25 pm Arr: 2:25 pm 2h 0m Boeing 737 Economy (X)

 

Heeft iemand een tip hoe ik dit kan boeken?

 

Creatieve oplossing : probeer het bij het webcare team van #klm op twitter? Voedt ze per DM met de juiste vluchtnummers en de prijs waar jij het plaatje voor vind?

 

Gedaan... Niet boekbaar, ze komen met twee boekingen, €437.

 

https://www.priceline.com/fly/#/che...8/1/AZ7737-AZ1418-AZ1269:AZ1268-AZ1311-AZ7740

Spoiler: fare rules

Fare Rules and Restrictions
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AMSNAP-AZ 07NOV15 *RULE DISPLAY* TARIFF 0021 RULE NL13 * ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES * -FARE BASIS EUR NUC PTC FT GI XAPNL3 R 42.00 47.23 ADT EX EH XAPNL3UM R 159.00 177.86 UNN EX EH XAPNL3CH R 29.00 31.65 CNN EX EH XAPNL3IN R 5.00 4.72 INF EX EH BOOKING CODES X

AGREEMENT_HEADER
FIRST TRAVEL - 1APR15

SEASONS
SEASONS - NO RESTRICTION

PENALTIES
PENALTIES UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - RULE SFB3 IN IPRG APPLIES BETWEEN ITALY AND EUROPE CHANGES CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO-SHOW.

PENALTIES
PENALTIES FARE RULES TEXT UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - RULE SFB3 IN IPRG APPLIES GENERAL RULES TEXT BETWEEN ITALY AND EUROPE CHANGES CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO-SHOW. NOTE - IN THE EVENT OF NO SHOW - WHEN CHANGES ARE REQUESTED AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT - CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED AND THE CANCELLATION RULES SHALL APPLY. BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE EUR 60.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. NOTE - WAIVED FOR ILLNESS OR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.ILLNESS/DEATH WAIVER MUST BE SUBSTANTIATED BY A VALID HOSPITAL/DEATH CERTIFICATE ------------------------------------------------ -- INVALID

DAY_TIME
DAY/TIME - NO RESTRICTION

ADV_RES_TKT
ADV RES/TKT BETWEEN AMS AND ITALY FOR XAPNL3 FARES NOTE - RULE AP07 IN UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS AND TICKETING ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. NOTE -

VOLUNTARY_CHANGES
VOLUNTARY CHANGE DO A CATEGORY 31 SPECIFIC TEXT ENTRY TO VIEW CONTENTS ALSO REFERENCE 16 PENALTIES - FOR ADDITIONAL CHANGE

LENGTH_OF_STAY
MIN STAY BETWEEN AMS AND ITALY FOR XAPNL3 FARES TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 1201AM ON THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN OR - TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 3 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

MAX_STAY
MAX STAY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - RULE MX06 IN IPRG APPLIES UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 6 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

BLACKOUTS
BLACKOUTS - NO RESTRICTION

SURCHARGES
SURCHARGES BETWEEN AMS AND NAP FOR X- TYPE FARES IF THE FARE COMPONENT IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AZ FLIGHT A SURCHARGE OF EUR 5.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE

STOPOVERS
STOPOVERS FROM/TO AMS NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED.

TRANSFERS
TRANSFERS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - AS PER ROUTING --- SURFACE TRANSPORTATION

FLT_APPLIC
FLT APPLIC UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AZ FLIGHT ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY AP

CHILD_DISC
CHILD DISC BETWEEN AMS AND ITALY FOR XAPNL3 FARES NOTE - RULE CH67 IN BETWEEN ITALY AND AREA 2 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES ORIGINATING ITALY - ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH

OTHER_DISC
OTHER DISC NONE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED

COMBINABILITY
COMBINABLTY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS

ELIGIBILITY
ELIGIBILITY - NO RESTRICTION

ACCOM_PSGR
ACCOM PSGR - NO RESTRICTION

TRVL_RESTR
TRVL RESTR UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON EACH TRIP ON/AFTER 01APR 15.

SALES_RESTR
SALES RESTR UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - RULE SR15 IN IPRG APPLIES BETWEEN ITALY AND AREA 2 TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AZ OR AF. TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. EXTENSION OF

NET_RESTRICTIONS
NET RESTR - NO RESTRICTION

TKT_ENDORSE
TKT ENDORSE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - AZ/AP ONLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

APPLICATION
APPLICATION UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED ALITALIA FARES FROM NETHERLANDS TO EUROPE APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY *MORE* HIPS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR CONNECTIONS. AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS.

INDUSTRY_TYPE
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XPB - SUPER/SPECIAL INSTANT PURCHASE

MAXIMUM_PERMITTED_MILEAGE
MPM - EH 1093 VIA EASTERN HEMISPHERE

ROUTING
ROUTING 8888 FROM-TO AMS-NAP* FROM-TO AMS-ROM/MIL/TRN/NAP/FLR/VRN/GOA/BRI/ BLQ/VCE/TRS/PSA/CTA/BDS-NAP*

HEADER
AMSNAP-AZ 07NOV15 *RULE DISPLAY* TARIFF 0021 RULE NL13 * ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES * -FARE BASIS EUR NUC PTC FT GI XAPNL3 R 42.00 47.23 ADT EX EH XAPNL3UM R 159.00 177.86 UNN EX EH XAPNL3CH R 29.00 31.65 CNN EX EH XAPNL3IN R 5.00 4.72 INF EX EH BOOKING CODES X

AGREEMENT_HEADER
FIRST TRAVEL - 1APR15

SEASONS
SEASONS - NO RESTRICTION

PENALTIES
PENALTIES UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - RULE SFB3 IN IPRG APPLIES BETWEEN ITALY AND EUROPE CHANGES CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO-SHOW.

PENALTIES
PENALTIES FARE RULES TEXT UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - RULE SFB3 IN IPRG APPLIES GENERAL RULES TEXT BETWEEN ITALY AND EUROPE CHANGES CHANGES NOT PERMITTED IN CASE OF NO-SHOW. NOTE - IN THE EVENT OF NO SHOW - WHEN CHANGES ARE REQUESTED AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FLIGHT - CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED AND THE CANCELLATION RULES SHALL APPLY. BEFORE DEPARTURE CHARGE EUR 60.00. CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY. NOTE - WAIVED FOR ILLNESS OR DEATH OF PASSENGER OR FAMILY MEMBER.ILLNESS/DEATH WAIVER MUST BE SUBSTANTIATED BY A VALID HOSPITAL/DEATH CERTIFICATE ------------------------------------------------ -- INVALID

DAY_TIME
DAY/TIME - NO RESTRICTION

ADV_RES_TKT
ADV RES/TKT BETWEEN AMS AND ITALY FOR XAPNL3 FARES NOTE - RULE AP07 IN UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS AND TICKETING ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE. NOTE -

VOLUNTARY_CHANGES
VOLUNTARY CHANGE DO A CATEGORY 31 SPECIFIC TEXT ENTRY TO VIEW CONTENTS ALSO REFERENCE 16 PENALTIES - FOR ADDITIONAL CHANGE

LENGTH_OF_STAY
MIN STAY BETWEEN AMS AND ITALY FOR XAPNL3 FARES TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 1201AM ON THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN OR - TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 3 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

MAX_STAY
MAX STAY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - RULE MX06 IN IPRG APPLIES UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN 6 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

BLACKOUTS
BLACKOUTS - NO RESTRICTION

SURCHARGES
SURCHARGES BETWEEN AMS AND NAP FOR X- TYPE FARES IF THE FARE COMPONENT IS ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AZ FLIGHT A SURCHARGE OF EUR 5.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE

STOPOVERS
STOPOVERS FROM/TO AMS NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED.

TRANSFERS
TRANSFERS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - AS PER ROUTING --- SURFACE TRANSPORTATION

FLT_APPLIC
FLT APPLIC UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED THE FARE COMPONENT MUST BE ON ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING ANY AZ FLIGHT ANY AZ FLIGHT OPERATED BY AP

CHILD_DISC
CHILD DISC BETWEEN AMS AND ITALY FOR XAPNL3 FARES NOTE - RULE CH67 IN BETWEEN ITALY AND AREA 2 FOR ROUND TRIP FARES ORIGINATING ITALY - ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 67 PERCENT OF THE FARE. TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH

OTHER_DISC
OTHER DISC NONE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED

COMBINABILITY
COMBINABLTY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED END-ON-END NOT PERMITTED. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS

ELIGIBILITY
ELIGIBILITY - NO RESTRICTION

ACCOM_PSGR
ACCOM PSGR - NO RESTRICTION

TRVL_RESTR
TRVL RESTR UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED VALID FOR TRAVEL COMMENCING ON EACH TRIP ON/AFTER 01APR 15.

SALES_RESTR
SALES RESTR UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED NOTE - RULE SR15 IN IPRG APPLIES BETWEEN ITALY AND AREA 2 TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON AZ OR AF. TICKETS MAY NOT BE ISSUED BY PTA. EXTENSION OF

NET_RESTRICTIONS
NET RESTR - NO RESTRICTION

TKT_ENDORSE
TKT ENDORSE UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED THE ORIGINAL TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED - AZ/AP ONLY - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

APPLICATION
APPLICATION UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED ALITALIA FARES FROM NETHERLANDS TO EUROPE APPLICATION AREA THESE FARES APPLY *MORE* HIPS UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR CONNECTIONS. AND - THE HIGHER INTERMEDIATE POINT RULE DOES NOT APPLY FOR STOPOVERS.

INDUSTRY_TYPE
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XPB - SUPER/SPECIAL INSTANT PURCHASE

MAXIMUM_PERMITTED_MILEAGE
MPM - EH 1093 VIA EASTERN HEMISPHERE

ROUTING
ROUTING 8888 FROM-TO AMS-NAP* FROM-TO AMS-ROM/MIL/TRN/NAP/FLR/VRN/GOA/BRI/ BLQ/VCE/TRS/PSA/CTA/BDS-NAP*

Wel duurder dan op ITA. 332 USD

 

Bedankt voor je hulp, @Basjep. Ik ga 'm boeken.

Wat zeggen jullie van deze:

 

Zag er in eerste instantie goed uit; €42/QF is een solide prijs.

MAAR: boekingsklasse P levert 0% miles en dus geen QF's op binnen Flying Blue!
Just so you know

 

Voor twee avondjes feest is het een hele leuke trip, maar voor QF heb je er inderdaad niets aan.